Let’s see why.
Firstly, as my husband explained, Yoshki, or ‘Yeshu’ isn’t referred to by name in the extant Gemara. As we’ll discover, even during his lifetime he was considered to be ‘influential’ and had built up enough of a following, and enough political connections, that the Sages of that time had to tread extremely carefully, in their dealings with him.
After his death, when xtianity become the official state religion of the waning Roman Empire, and certainly once it was established as the faith of Europe, it became increasingly dangerous for Jews (or anyone else, for that matter…) to speak against Yoshki.
THE JEWS AND THE CRUSADERS
In a few days, it’s Tisha B’av, and we’ll be reading the kinnot, or lamentations, that were penned by various Jews down the ages.
I have a book called ‘The Jews and the Crusaders’ which contains the translated chronicles of four Jewish eye-witness accounts to the wholesale slaughter of Jewish communities in Mainz, and other Franco-German communities in the first and second crusade.
For the first 1,000 years after the common era, the Jewish communities were pretty much left alone by the growing tide of xtianity, which was far more focused on getting all the pagan cults present in Europe under the canopy of the new faith. But once that was achieved, xtianity turned its attention to challenging Islam and Judaism - and in true ‘xtian’ fashion, they did it at the point of sword and the head of an army.
At the time of the first crusade (1095-6 CE), though, the European Jews hadn’t yet been completely bowed by centuries of ongoing xtian persecution and violence, and you can see that in the way they spoke back to their xtian murderers.
This is translated directly from the last words of a God-fearing Jewish gabbai who the xtians were trying to get to convert, called David ben Natanel. David ben Natanel called the crusaders over to him (who’d already butchered most of the village) and told them:
“You are children of harlotry, believing as you do in a god who was an [illegitimate child] and was crucified. As for me - I believe in the Everlasting God Who dwells in the lofty heavens. In Him have I trusted to this day, and I will continue to do so until my soul departs.
“Moreover, I know the truth: If you slay me, my soul will abide in the Garden of Eden - in the light of life. You, however, descend to the deep pit, to eternal obloquy. To Gehenna (hell) are you and your [son of a harlot] god condemned, and to boiling excrement will you be consigned.”
Firstly, the amazing emuna and courage of this Jew, to say this to people who had absolutely no qualms about butchering Jews in the most barbaric fashion.
Secondly, to show that the following things I’m about to share with you about Yoshki were common knowledge amongst all the Jewish communities for over a thousand years, until the Jews were forced to self-censor our holy books to avoid more torture and wholesale slaughter from their xtian neighbors.
And thirdly, to make it clear that a thousand years’ ago, even the simplest Jew knew that xtianity was complete and utter poison for a Jewish soul, and that no ‘deal’ could ever be struck with it, even to try and save a Jew’s physical life.
Ahh, this bitter exile! The Jews that were butchered by the crusaders must be turning in their graves, every time another cosy ‘interfaith’ story hits the headlines… What can we do, except pray to be speedily redeemed from all this terrible confusion.
ON TO THE JUICY STUFF
So, whenever you read about the ‘sinner’ of Israel in the Gemara, or other pseudonyms he was given like ‘Ben Stada’ (see tractate Shabbos, 104b) you should know that this is a veiled reference to the founder of xtianity.
You should also know that many of the xtians themselves (particularly the ones with a penchant for reading Gemara…) actually know this stuff themselves. There’s a whole bunch of Wikipedia posts with most of this information, tutting over the terrible ‘blasphemy’ that’s going on in our ancient Jewish sources.
So, let’s start with Gemara Shabbos 104b, that explains a little bit who ‘Ben Stada’ was, and why David ben Natanel told the crusaders that he was a mamzer.
WHO WAS YOSHKI’S DAD?
This is what the Artscroll version of Tractate Shabbos, 104b says:
“R’ Eliezer said to the Sages: ‘But Ben Stada took out sorcery spells from Egypt by means of scratches on his flesh…The Sages replied: ”He was deranged, and we do not bring proofs from deranged people.” The Mishnah stated: ‘If one wrote one letter alongside….”
"It is taught that Rabbi Eliezer said to the Wise, "Did not Ben Stada bring spells from Egypt in a cut in his flesh?" They said to him, "He was a fool, and they do not bring evidence from a fool." Ben Stada is Ben Pantera. Rabbi Hisda said, "The husband was Stada, the lover was Pantera." The husband was "actually" Pappos ben Judah, the mother was Stada. The mother was Miriam "Mary" the dresser of women's hair. As we say in Pumbeditha, "She has been false to "satath da" her husband." (b. Shabbat 104b)"
Long story short, Yoshki’s dad was a Roman Soldier called ‘Pantera’ and his mum, Mary, was a Jewish hairdresser who had an affair with him.
So halachically, Yoshki was illegitimate (i.e. the result of an adulterous union) but WASN’T a mamzer in the halachic sense of the word, because his father was a non-Jew. We’re already starting to see why he had a lot of motivation to create his own religion and make up big stories about who his ‘dad’ really was….
HOW YOSHKI BROKE WITH JUDAISM
Next, let’s go over to Tractate Sotah, 47a (again, no coincidences here…) where the Sages are having the following discussion:
“What is the incident involving R’ Yehoshua Ben Prachya and his student? When King Yannai was killing the Rabbis, Shimon Ben Shetach was hidden by his sister, the wife of the King, and R’ Yehoshua ben Prachya went and fled to Alexandria, to Egypt…[R’ Yehoshua is then told it’s safe to return to Israel]…
“…whereupon he set out to return to Jerusalem. As he was travelling, he came to a certain inn. His hosts stood up for him in a display of great honor, and they continued to accord him much honor. He sat and was praising his hostess: ‘How nice is this hostess’ - meaning, ‘how pleasing are her deeds’.
“Mistaking his teacher’s intent, one of his students said to him: ‘Rabbi, she is not beautiful, for her eyes are round!’ [R’ Yehoshua ben Prachya] said [to this student]: ‘Wicked one! In matters such as these you occupy yourself?! He took out four hundred horns and he excommunicated this student.
“Every day [the student] would come before him, to beg forgiveness, and he wouldn’t receive him. One day, when he was reciting Kriat Shema, the student came before him yet again. This time, [R’ Yehoshua ben Prachya] had intended to accept him and pardon him. Being unable to talk at that moment, he motioned to him with his hand that he would receive him as soon as he’d finished reciting Kriat Shema.
“But the student thought that he was pushing him away yet again, and despaired of ever attaining his teacher’s forgiveness. So he went and stood a brick on end, and worshiped it as an idol.
“Subsequently, [R’Yehoshua ben Prachya] said to him: ‘Repent!’ But he replied to him: ‘Thus have I received a tradition from you: whoever sins and causes others to sin, is not given the opportunity to repent.]”
To put this whole story into a bit more context, R’Yehoshua Ben Prachya was the head of the Sanhedrin.
He appears in the Pirkei Avot, and his saying is very telling:
“Yehoshua ben Prachya said: “Find for yourself a teacher, acquire for yourself a friend, and judge every person favorably.” Pirkei Avot 1:6
Isn’t it interesting that Yoshki’s rabbi is the one who told us to ‘judge every person favorably’ - which if you’ve been following this blog recently, you know is the key to redemption as set out by Rebbe Nachman (and explained so well by Rav Ofer Erez) in his lesson on ‘Azamra’?
You can download Rav Ofer’s full lesson on judging favorably HERE, but let’s just remember what Rebbe Nachman told us:
“Know! We have to judge every person favorably! Even if you meet a complete evildoer, you must search until your find some element of good in him.”
It boggles the mind to think of how different things might be right now if Yoshki hadn’t left the fold, immensely evil person that he truly was…But that’s a discussion for another time. For now, let’s continue by asking:
HOW DID YOSHKI ACQUIRE HIS MIRACULOUS ABILITIES?
For anyone acquainted with the Baba Sali, who miraculously made one bottle of Arak stretch the whole night, for hundreds of the visitors to his home in Netivot back in the 1980s, the whole ‘bread and fishes’ miracle that the xtians get so excited about is really no big deal at all.
But still, how did Yoshki acquire his miraculous abilities? The answer is: black magic that he learned in Egypt.
That’s the whole discussion that they’re having in Tractate Shabbat 104b, because ‘Ben Stada’ smuggled that black magic out of Egypt, a place that was known as the most spiritually impure, ‘magical’ country in the world. (There are discussions in other parts of the Gemara, take a look at Sanhedrin 67a and 67b about how you couldn’t trust an animal was ‘real’ if you’d bought it from Egypt unless you had it pass over water, as that would ‘dissolve’ the black magic and then you’d see what you’d really bought.)
Rashi says this about the passage quoted above:
“The Egyptian sorcerers would inspect anyone leaving Egypt to ensure that he wasn’t smuggling out written copies of their spells to use in other countries. Ben Stada scratched the spells on his body, to avoid apprehension.”
King Yanai was a Hasmonean King who’d ‘gone bad’ and supported all those liberal folk who wanted to do Judaism ‘their way’, as opposed to God and the Torah’s way, and he was a despotic tyrant who murdered thousands of his own people, set off a bloody civil war, and had a particular animus against the orthodox ‘rabbis’ that wouldn’t let him do whatever the heck he wanted to do.
(Does any of this sound familiar, Kotel controversy readers?)
But to come back to Yoshki, here’s the main points to consider:
1) Yoshki went down to his Egypt with his rabbi as part of his entourage.
2) His rabbi was the head of the Sanhedrin, a huge Torah scholar, and could clearly see that this students was potentially very bad news - that’s why he excommunicated him in the first place.
3) The King in Israel at that time was ‘anti’ rabbis and Torah Judaism, and had disbanded the Sanhedrin and tried to kill all the Jewish leaders he viewed as ‘competition’ for his own power base.
The other point to note here is that all this happened somewhere between 103 -76 B.C.E - so clearly dating Yoshki’s birth to ‘year 0’ is another complete delusion.
(As a side note, that whole famous ‘King Herod tried to kill baby Yoshki’ story is also completely delusional, as Herod died in 4 BCE - and again if you’re dating the birth of Yoshki to year zero, that presents you with quite a big problem, in terms of the credibility of the narrative you're trying to give over.)
WHY WAS YOSHKI KILLED?
Again, another ‘self-censored’ passage from Sanhedrin 67a explains what happens to ‘inciters / instigators’ (remember that word, we’ll come back to it a little later on) who ‘subvert a city to idolatry’, and also includes a whole big discussion about sorcerers, i.e. people who use black magic.
Sorcerers were routinely executed by the Sanhedrin (after a fair trial). (There’s a very interesting discussion there that creating an ‘illusion’ of a super-natural act doesn’t make a person liable to the death penalty - breathe out, Paul Mckenna - but actually doing a super-natural act itself, like for example, walking on water (my addition), does.)
Also, people who incited / subverted a whole city to follow idols were also executed by the Sanhedrin. Here’s what the passage from Sanhedrin says, in connection to how they caught and dealt with the notorious ‘Ben Stada’ (again, don’t bother looking for the reference to Ben Stada in your Artscroll gemara, because it ain’t there.)
“It was taught in a Baraisa: ‘We do not arrange witnesses to lie in wait to apprehend anyone else committing a capital offense of the Torah, except for this one (the instigator). What do we do to him? We kindle a light for him in an inner room and place witnesses in a nearby outer room so that they can see him and hear his voice. But he cannot see them.
“The other [i.e. the target of the instigator] says to him: ‘Repeat, privately, that which you said to me before.’ The instigator says it to him, and the other replies: ‘How can we forsake our God in Heaven and worship an idol?!’
“If the instigator retracts, that is good, he is free of liability. But if he says ‘This is our obligation’, or ‘this is favorable for us’, the witnesses who are listening from outside bring him to court to stone him. And so they did to Ben Stada in Lod and hung him on Erev Pesach.”
So to sum up, Yoshki was executed by the Sanhedrin for ‘subverting’ whole cities to worship idols.
Now, I remember hearing from some rabbi or other that Yoshki was actually killed by the Sanhedrin by being hung on a banana plant, because he’d cast a spell on the other ‘trees’, so they wouldn’t bear his weight, but as the banana plant is adamah, and not etz (i.e. a plant and not a tree), the Sanhedrin decided to hang him on that, instead.
BUT - I can’t find any reliable sources for that in the information I’ve pulled together so far, although there is a heck of a lot of debate amongst the xtians themselves about whether Yoshki was hung on a tree, or crucified.
(Again, mind-boggling to think that even the xtians themselves can’t agree on the whole ‘crucifixion’ part of the fairy tale.)
But what I do have to share with you is a complete passage from Sanhedrin 43b, which was ‘self-censored’ out of the Gemara (for the reasons explained above) - but which ironically, you can find English translations of by xtians all over the web…
Please note that Yeshu - who is clearly Yoshki, the founder of xtianity - and ‘ben Stada’ - one of the codenames the Gemara uses for Yoshki - were both hung on Erev Pesach. As we’re going through gathering the clues, you can see that this whole story is about one and the same person, the student of R’ Yehoshua Ben Prachya who went ‘off the derech’ and started his own idolatrous relgion.
Here’s what it says (I’m translating it from the original Hebrew, so please excuse any errors):
“On Erev Pesach, Yeshu was hanged. And the herald [town crier] went out 40 days beforehand and cried out that he was going out to be hung, because he’d practiced sorcery (black magic) and incited and seduced the people of Israel [away from Hashem].
[The town crier said]: ‘Anyone who knows of any justification (‘zchut’) for him should come and tell us about it.’ No zchut was found for him, and he was hung Erev Pesach.
Ulla said: “Explain to me how a defense could be found - he was an inciter!...It’s written [Devarim 13:9] you can’t have mercy on, pardon and ‘cover up’ for [inciters]. Except that in this case, he was close to the Malchut (royalty).”
So, this is why the Sages went to all the trouble of ‘trying to find a public defense’ for Yoshki, when the halacha was clear that these people were usually just sent to meet their Maker, forthwith.
That same expunged piece of the Gemara, in Sanhedrin 43b (and I just went to check the Artscroll version, and it’s notably shorter than most ‘pages’ in the Gemara…) also talks about Yoshki’s five disciples.
(Yes, I know - they said there were 10, but as we’ve been noticing xtianity never let anything as mundane as a fact get in the way of telling a good story.)
Here’s what it says:
“Our sages taught: Yeshu had five talmidim (disciples), Matai, Nekai, Netzer, and Buni and Todah.”
What’s interesting are the names. I don’t have more to add about that at this stage, and I don’t know if they were real names, or names that were picked to convey a deeper meaning. Over to you on that one, dear reader.
WHERE IS YOSHKI NOW?
Ok, the last piece of this fascinating post (and thank God we don’t live in the Middle Ages, as someone would definitely be preparing a nice BBQ stake (pun intended) for me in the middle of the town square right now…) comes from Tractate Gittin 56b.
There, we read the following:
“Onkelos, who was the son of Kelonikos and the son of Titus’ sister wanted to convert to Judaism. He went and raised the spirit of Onkelos through necromancy. [Onkelos] asked him, ‘Who is prominent in that world?’ (i.e. the world to come).
“[Titus] answered him: ‘Israel’ Onkelos asked him: ‘Should I join them? [I.e. convert] [Titus] answered him: ‘Their laws are numerous and you will not be able to fulfill them. Go and attack them in that world [i.e. the physical world] and you will become a leader, for it’s written: ‘[Israel’s] enemies have become leaders…’ etc. From this verse it’s derived that whoever persecutes Israel becomes a leader.
[Onkelos] asked [Titus]: ‘What is that man’s (i.e. your) punishment? Titus answered him: ‘He is punished with the very fate he set for himself. Every day his ashes are gathered and he is judged. Then he is burned and his ashes are scattered over seven seas.”
“Onkelos then went and raised the spirit of Bilaam through necromancy.[Onkelos] asked him: ‘Who is prominent in that world?’ [Bilaam] answered him: ‘Israel’. Onkelos asked him: ‘Should I join them?’ He answered him: ‘Seek neither their peace nor their benefit all the days.’ [Onkelos] asked him: ‘What is that man’s (i.e. your) punishment?’ [Bilaam] answered him: ‘I am punished in boiling semen.’”
(NOW THAT THE GEMARA HAS SET THE SCENE WE COME TO THE ‘SINNER OF ISRAEL’, ANOTHER CODEWORD FOR YOSHKI):
“Onkelos then went and raised the sinner of Israel through necromancy. [Onkelos] asked him: ‘Who is prominent in the world?’ He answered him: ‘Israel’. Onkelos asked him: ‘Should I join them?’ He answered him: ‘Seek their benefit. Do not seek their harm. Whoever touches them is like one who touches the pupil of his eye (i.e. whoever harms them, harms himself).’
Onkelos asked him: ‘What is that man’s (i.e. your) punishment? He answered him: ‘I am punished in boiling feces.’ This accords with that which master said: ‘Whoever mocks the words of the Sages is punished in boiling feces.’”
So to sum up, Yoshki is spending eternity being boiled in a big vat of poo in Gehinnom for mocking the Sages and Jewish law, and encouraging people to worship him as a 'god' instead of the Creator of the world…
There’s so much more that could be said about this, but if you want to know why xtians hated the Jews non-stop for 2,000 years - and why the Western nations are continuing their efforts to undermine Israel and to wrest Jerusalem and the Temple Mount away from Jewish hands - here’s the answer, in a nutshell.
Our Talmud, our Jewish tradition, shows very clearly that xtianity is a complete delusion from start to finish. It shows that the founder of xtianity was born as the result of an affair between a married Jewish hairdresser and a Roman soldier, performed all his ‘supernatural’ acts via black magic and sorcery, was hung by the Sanhedrin for being an idol-worshipping sorcerer, and is now spending eternity in a bit vat of boiling poo.
No wonder the West is very happy to support any Arab attempt to ‘liberate’ Jerusalem and undermine the Jews in Israel.
The last thing I wanted to just mention is that I know that a bunch of people left xtianity and became God-fearing noahides, some of whom read this blog occasionally. Xtianity is so very hard to leave, because it’s rooted in a very strong spiritual impurity that convinces you that anything and anyone who talks against ‘Yoshki’ is pure evil.
It takes a tremendous spiritual effort, and a lot of courage to leave xtianity. Anyone who manages to do that, and who becomes a God-fearing noahide, is truly to be praised. BH, more people will follow them out of idol worship, and return to serving the One true Creator of the world very soon.